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#1 TsunTsun Loves Morgan

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 02:28 AM

Since there is no longer a secret as to what Zexion's weapon really is, do you think there is a better reason that his tomb is smashed? A vengeful XIII Order member, perhaps?

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 02:34 AM

Square was feeling lazy at that moment?

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 02:47 AM

QUOTE(KeyBlade Fenrir @ May 27 2007, 01:59 AM)

Square was feeling lazy at that moment?

You would think that if Square could make 12 tombs by basically copy/pasting the tomb, then adding the emblem, they could make a 13th no problem.

In reality, they added more work for themselves! (:

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 02:49 AM

His grave was destroyed because at the time- no one knew what Zexions weapon was so Nomura decided to have his tomb destroyed so that they can keep his weapon as a suprise- and in FM, I guess they didn't bother fixing it because that would spoil his weapon for people who haven't fought him yet. Nomura said that in one of his interviews- I'ma try to find it again for my source.

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 02:56 AM

No, I know that's the reason why his tomb is destroyed, because Nomura wanted to create mystery behind what Zexion's weapon was, however, I'm asking if there is a new unveiled in KH2FM+ that reveals yet another reason why his tomb was smashed, aside from "Nomura wanted mystery."

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 03:00 AM

Oh yeah :/

Ughh.... Nomura hides to many things from us >__>

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 03:05 AM

He does. He likes to leave things out in the open and let our imaginations go. Then here comes the speculation!

Oh, here's the source you wanted. I just pulled it from here real quick.

Yeah, I would have to go with Squeenix was being lazy at the time, and all that. But I think there could be another reason... I'm going with the vengeful member. Axel maybe? It seems plausible, or at least I think it does.

Gah, the speculation continues... Nomura made a plothole for himself.

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 03:08 AM

QUOTE(inuinu @ May 27 2007, 02:25 AM)

Oh yeah :/

Ughh.... Nomura hides to many things from us >__>

Everything in nothing, I suppose.

For instance, the way Nomura is constantly going (basically): "Check this out- it's gonna be cool, but I'm not gonna tell you what it is." Keychainless Keyblades, Deep Dive, Roxas, etc. (Of course we find out eventually, but until then, I mean.)

Kingdom Hearts is the one game with the most speculation, maybe in the history of video games.

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 03:09 AM

^Definitely. I would have to agree with you on that one

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 03:19 AM

Thanks for finding the interview XxZexionxX!

I bet he laughs at us behind for thinking up of so many theorys >__> curse you Nomura but we gotta love you for making this game! 8D

Anway if anyone were ever to destroy Zexions grave I think it'd be Axel since he did kinda Kill him and I bet he destroyed his grave for enjoyment D: anyone esle with me on this?

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 03:30 AM

QUOTE(inuinu @ May 27 2007, 02:44 AM)

well, Vexen kind of decided to sic Replica Riku on Zexion, so maybe this was Vexen also making a stab at Zexion?

However, if not Vexen, then Axel.

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 03:32 AM

I honestly think he does. "Wonder what those kingdom hearts fans will think of next."

I am with you!

Here's my theory on why: After Marluxia died and stuff, and Axel and Zexion were the only ones left, Axel knew that Zexion knew about Vexen, and how Axel betrayed too. Not wanting to have that affect his standings in the Organization (however you want to word it), Axel got rid of him to dispose of any evidence.

Then for the grave theory: Hmm... you know I honestly don't know. Maybe Axel just doesn't like him.

EDIT: Just saw above quote.

Vexen didn't sic the Riku Replica on him. Though I do get the feeling him and Zexion aren't really fond of each other. It seems evident from their first conversation. It's possible, if only for the fact Vexen didn't die before Zexion.

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 03:44 AM

I also bet he does the Dr. Evil pose and says " The fools- hahahahahaha..."

But being serious now-

I think Axel made the Riku Replica kill Zexion because he doesn't like him because of something that happened between the two and for what you (XxZexionxX) said but yours sounds alot more logical to me.

And if Vexen hated Zexion in any way I guess it would be of competition between the two on whos better at experiments or something since

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I know my theorys are stupid but thats what were doing now right? Speculating and theories one after the other :D

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 03:48 AM

. Probably.

Vexen and Zexion: That's what I'm guessing. Both of them were mentioned in the Secret Ansem Reports, and both seemed to be regarded by Ansem the Wise. Maybe Vexen was mad because he was the youngest apprentice. I honestly don't know. But I think we're going to be speculating for a while.

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 04:27 AM

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 05:42 AM

Didn't Nomura say in one of his interviews that Zexion's book contains important information on some people? I'm also sure that he also said that at the current time he can't reveal who the book has information on and what information it has...

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 06:45 AM

he said that if people knew what was inside
they would know the future of the KH series

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 03:46 PM

I agree with that Cissy. Well done! I can so picture Nomura doing that.

Where was this said? Can I see an interview?

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 04:15 PM

Maybe Zexion's grave had an image of the Lexicon (Zexys book), and it contained valuable order information, so the Org. destroyed his grave so no one would go looking for it and find out all those goodies?

xD I'unno.

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 04:20 PM

Hmm... that could be a good reason. I'm really wondering what is in that book...

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 04:37 PM

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 04:45 PM

Such wonderful ideas. I'll agree to that!

A "Jiminy's Journal" hmm? Definitely sounds plausible. And stuff about Terra and co. Definitely sounds good.

More theories!

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 07:16 PM

QUOTE(Twilight Warrior @ May 27 2007, 01:07 AM)

That was a cruel, cruel April Fools joke, nothing more. Nomura never said anything.

I dunno. I kinda want the book to hold some importance. I mean... otherwise it just seems silly keeping it under wraps for so long simply because we didn't see it in CoM.

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 09:53 PM

What? The April Fool's joke here was a fake interview that basically had Nomura say FM was coming here.

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Posted 27 May 2007 - 10:09 PM

QUOTE(Xagzan @ May 27 2007, 05:18 PM)

What? The April Fool's joke here was a fake interview that basically had Nomura say FM was coming here.

If you recall, and I believe it originated as news on kh-vids, part of the April Fool's joke was stating that the info in Zexion's book had some importance.