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Posted 07 August 2007 - 06:24 PM

okay im just throwing a theory about this topic out there and i figured id make a thread so... yeah if this isnt good enough for you, look there

alright first off ... ill be refering to aqua terra and ven as the "first generation of keyblade masters / trio" ...i only say "first generation / trio" becuase they came before sora and the gang - while sora and his friends (riku kairi or mickey) will be refered to as the "new generation / trio" only becuase they come after aqua terra and ven - as far as we know

someone told me that to use an element you have to actually have some in your heart (meaning to use darkness you have to have it witihin you and likewise with light)

but i should state that i very strongly beleive that if the light is strong enough in someones heart they can both control the darkness and wield the keyblade found in the dark realm as well as pass through the dark realm freely ...how else do you explain sora micky and kairi being in the world that never was when you have to enter into the dark realm to get there - place where axel died - easy, there hearts are filled with light ... and riku already belonged to the realm of darkness so it wouldnt apply to him... however

it also goes the other way ... if there is enough darkness in a persons heart - they can control the light kept within the keyblade from the realm of light as well as move freely through the realm of light ..riku is an obvious example becuase he could use sora's keyblade (from KH1) even after he submitted himself to darkness and after riku was inside the dark realm with mickey - he was still able to go into the realm of light ... (remember when he went to a bunch of worlds in KH2)

now with all that in mind ..my theory starts here by me believing that kairi is going to be a keyblade master and is part of the "new generation / trio" of keyblade masters along with sora and riku ... i also beleive that she was originally supposed to get the keyblade from the realm of darkness (the one mickey has) - and ill come back to kairi but as for riku and sora, riku was originally supposed to get the KK - he didnt and was eventually substituted with the way to dawn - with is the keyblade found between both light and darkness (only securing the inevitablility of him becoming a keyblade weilder) and sora recieved the KK - one from the realm of light and also making him a keyblade master even though he wasnt suposed to be at that point -

now with this stated i should also say that in the sunset horisons / or the gathering video - YouTube - Kingdom Hearts II Secret Ending Video English - you will notice that terra picks up the KK from the realm of light ... while aqua picks up the keyblade from the realm of darkness .. and ven grabs the way to dawn.

terra meant for the KK from the realm of light to be SENT to riku - and since sora got it and riku was substituted with the way to dawn ... How do we know that Aqua hadnt meant for the keyblade from the realm of darkness to be sent to kairi - easy we dont ...what we do know is that mickey eventually got it. but as you we'll see in the BBS video - YouTube - The full Kingdom Hearts II Final Mix Secret Trailer (im sure everyone's seen it) - in the end, mickey doesnt have the keyblade from realm of derkness yet its it is still used by aqua which makes me think that he enterfered with kairi getting it (just as sora did with riku) so as to help sora seal the door to kingdom hearts

some quick questions you may have though?

Q) why cant mickey be the third of the "new generation/trio" of masters along with sora and riku
- easy mickey already had a keyblade when the events of the BBS video took place which means he can't be part of the "new generation / trio" - i truely think mickey is just a "guardian" so to speak and is just a protector or extra hand to the trio that are true masters... in this case aqua terra and ven or sora riku and kairi

now before i get back to kairi - i want to talk about the keyblade that riku gave her in TWTNW Kingdom Hearts Insider - Weapons (here is a link to where to find it ..just scroll down) ........ i cant relle pretend to know how riku got that keyblade (i have a theory although i dont want to sepectulate) but regardless - one thing is for certian about it - Kairi was able to wield it and actually use it to fight against the heartless ..and since riku technically "belongs" to the dark realm (as he still looks like ansem when he gave it to her) then how could she use a keyblade "created" from the dark realm or brought on by someone from the dark realm ...luckiliy, i have already stated the answer to that - with kairi being a princess of heart there is no doubt that her heart is filled with light ..and so much so, that i believe the light within her can control the darkness within the keyblade riku gave her ( i dont care what it looks like - it was made from darkness!!! it only looks that way cause its for her to use) and also mickey's keyblade (inverse keyblade from realm of darkness). mikey's heart is also filled with light yet he still wields the keyblade from the dark realm! ...if he can do it why cant kairi since she did use riku's .. it makes perfect sense

but now i think ill explain why kairi will be chosen as a keyblade master..
- her heart is strong enough to allow her to pass through the realm of darkness and into TWTNW - which is very close to the dark realm and, as far as we know - mickey and sora were the only other ones to do that and both are keyblade weilders
- she is able to hold and use a keyblade that belongs to the realm of darkness YouTube - Kairi Gets Her Keyblade (video proving it)
- she is able to hold that keyblade without it returning to riku and that alone means that her heart is qualified to wield one (riku does the same with sora in traverse town in KH1)
- and finally and maybe most importantly: she, sora, and riku are connected in the same ways as aqua terra and ven (name meanings and and such)

now i know that everyon that reads this will say that it wouldnt fit or it would just be stupid but as you have seen theres is a great deal of evidense supporting that she could be...
i also know that they keyblade does chose its master but how do you explain terra choosing riku to recieve the kingdom key?? ..you cant which makes me think that a person can be chosen by both another person and the keyblade itself, also making me believe that aqua cose her.

so yeah i forgot some stuff i wanted to add and i know this is long but w/e ....if you disagree you cna t just asy "i disagree" - ill respect you opinion but dont be an ass

just tell me what you think anad ill add as i remember thingsand if any one wnats to know more or tlk to me about ne thing - you can email me at happyhippo128@verizon.com

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Posted 07 August 2007 - 06:28 PM

You may wanna edit your first paragraph since those topics arn't on this site, and post a link to them...

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Posted 07 August 2007 - 06:29 PM

QUOTE(KabbageLynn @ Aug 7 2007, 01:53 PM) View Post

You may wanna edit your first paragraph since those topics arn't on this site, and post a link to them...


yeah i know i fergot but any comment about the theory

and none of the links i put up for videos and such as working .. = /

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Posted 07 August 2007 - 06:48 PM

Problem: The place where a keyblade is from doesn't constitute its alliance. For instance, a keyblade from the dark realm does not mean the key itself is dark, it can be used for either.

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Posted 07 August 2007 - 06:56 PM

QUOTE(The Graceful Assassin @ Aug 7 2007, 02:13 PM) View Post

Problem: The place where a keyblade is from doesn't constitute its alliance. For instance, a keyblade from the dark realm does not mean the key itself is dark, it can be used for either.


i know that but everytime i say that kairi CAN use the keyblade from the dark realm, someone always says well kairi is from the realm of light and cant use the keybalde from the dark realm - even though mickey does it (as ive said) so isk ...and i never said ne thing about the keyblades alliance either ...cause i know its neutral ...i never even hinted as to the keyblades allience in my theory

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Posted 07 August 2007 - 08:13 PM

To wield a Keyblade you must have a strong heart. Look at Riku he was dark until now and he had a keyblade. Kairi can use the one Riku gave her because she had a strong heart.

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Posted 07 August 2007 - 08:20 PM

noone gets what i mean about all this... sleep.gif

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Posted 08 August 2007 - 03:28 AM

..wow....people...pay attention-

Okay so, little dude you have a point, who said that Mickey was intended for the Keyblade?

No one, Mickey went to the dark side and GOT it, so here's the thing..let's just say that maybe just MAYBE, Mickey wasn't meant for the Keyblade of the other realm!???!?!?!

Then who's to say it wasn't....


KAIRI!!!!

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Posted 08 August 2007 - 04:07 PM

Hm, then maybe she and Mickey should trade keyblades. I'm sure he'd love hers...

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Posted 09 August 2007 - 12:29 AM

Who knows what the hell kind of realm Kairi's keyblade is from tongue.gif

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Posted 09 August 2007 - 12:29 AM

Xagzan: But thats Riku's keyblade...the flower one that is....
Kairi was only borrowing it...

Cerberus: Light realm.

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Posted 09 August 2007 - 12:45 AM

the keyblade kairi used could have been a borrow from riku that he got some point during kingdom hearts 2

who knows ???

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Posted 09 August 2007 - 02:04 AM

QUOTE(KabbageLynn @ Aug 9 2007, 12:54 AM) View Post

Xagzan: But thats Riku's keyblade...the flower one that is....
Kairi was only borrowing it...

Cerberus: Light realm.


Hm, I don't remember any indication that Riku was going to ask for that keyblade back. Especially considering it's design wouldn't be his style, and he has his own Keyblade.

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Posted 09 August 2007 - 08:41 AM

Well, weather it was created from Riku's Darkness or obtained from the Realm of Light, the Keyblade was obviously meant for Kairi to wield either way. As for the actual theory itself, I highly conccur with the evidence as I myself find it very likely that Kairi may become a Keyblade Wielder.

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Posted 09 August 2007 - 10:22 AM

QUOTE(Xagzan @ Aug 8 2007, 05:29 PM) View Post

Hm, I don't remember any indication that Riku was going to ask for that keyblade back. Especially considering it's design wouldn't be his style, and he has his own Keyblade.


We only see her with it for that short period of time. She didn't have it after that scene. Also, Nomu says:

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VI - Could you please give an explanation for the new keyblade "Way to the Dawn" that Riku obtained and the keyblade Kairi has as well as what the conditions for using a keyblade are?

There isn't necessarily one keyblade for the dark side and one for the light side, just as many as there exist people with qualified hearts. Concerning the conditions to wield one, at this stage, "Those with strong hearts" is the only obvious one. However, less obvious conditions still exist and there are still plans for an opportunity to reveal those. Riku's "Way to the Dawn" and Kairi's keyblade are naturally the same type of keyblade as Sora's. However there is no particular explanation for the Soul Eater's transfer and occurence, as well as Riku's handing it to Kairi. When there isn't a normal process of acquisition, I think its ok to think there is some deeper meaning there.


the "it" being Soul eater/Way to Dawn.

Also, according to the novels, when Kairi asked where the blade came from, Riku says he doesn't know, but when he thought of a memory about her, it just appeared.

There for, the blade is Riku's but, because Riku was thinking of Kairi, it gave such a ghey shape.

What I think is Riku is dual wielding, but he gives one of his blades to Kairi. nd since Kairi is a princess of heart, her heart is strong enough to hold it.

But, since this is Riku's blade, I believe that it may be a stand in until Kairi gets her own. (If she does, but I highly think so )

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Posted 09 August 2007 - 07:28 PM

I think Riku will let her keep it.

And Riku never handed her the Soul eater or WttD.

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Posted 10 August 2007 - 05:12 AM

Did you not read the interview?

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However there is no particular explanation for the Soul Eater's transfer and occurence, as well as Riku's handing it to Kairi.


It was Soul/Dawn, just with a different form. (perhaps, because of the keychain.)

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Posted 10 August 2007 - 06:15 AM

But he also says "When there isn’t a normal process of acquisition, I think it’s ok to think there is some deeper meaning there."

As in Kairi acquiring the keyblade from Riku.

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Posted 10 August 2007 - 04:44 PM

Kairi's Keyblade CAN'T be the soul eater/way to dawn, both keyblades are seen on screen at the same time!

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Posted 10 August 2007 - 05:49 PM

QUOTE(Tinny @ Aug 10 2007, 05:09 PM) View Post

Kairi's Keyblade CAN'T be the soul eater/way to dawn, both keyblades are seen on screen at the same time!


Exactly what I was thinking. The thing about translations is, people read them as though they were written in English, and not translated at all. Come on, what does "soul eater's occurence" even mean? Soul Eater turned to WttD.

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Posted 11 August 2007 - 01:21 AM

Okay, I'm just now realizing that Kairi's Keyblade is supposed to look like Destiny Islands...

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I remember what KabbageLynn said about the Keychain. I wanted to get a closer look at it but instead I found that. I did eventually get to see that the Keychain is a Paopu, I'm just saying, I never knew that before until now... blink.gif

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Posted 11 August 2007 - 07:29 PM

QUOTE(Tinny @ Aug 10 2007, 08:09 AM) View Post

Kairi's Keyblade CAN'T be the soul eater/way to dawn, both keyblades are seen on screen at the same time!


There is the possibility of Riku dual wielding and giving one to Kai.

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Posted 11 August 2007 - 11:27 PM

Riku doesn't dual wield. Soul Eater became WttD, then he gave one other keyblade to Kairi, leaving him with one.

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Posted 12 August 2007 - 12:35 AM

QUOTE(KabbageLynn @ Aug 9 2007, 12:54 AM) View Post

Xagzan: But thats Riku's keyblade...the flower one that is....
Kairi was only borrowing it...

Cerberus: Light realm.


I would assume so, the way I see it I think Kairi wouldn't be able to handle a dark keyblade.


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Posted 12 August 2007 - 01:12 AM

QUOTE(Cerberus @ Aug 11 2007, 08:00 PM) View Post

I would assume so, the way I see it I think Kairi wouldn't be able to handle a dark keyblade.

Kairi could wield a keyblade from the dark realm. Just because it's from there doesn't actually mean the keyblade itself is dark.

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