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(SPOILERS) KH: 358/2 Days - Official Discussion Thread

#26 User is offline   Jack Skellington 

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Posted 27 September 2007 - 03:43 PM

I have a new theory on the title's meaning;

Originally I looked at it as a giant equation. But I started a new KH2 game and I remembered DiZ talking about how Roxas would need a new personality for that week before Sora woke up. I think what this game is is CoM in reverse; We play through Roxas' memories of his year in Organization XIII as they are being erased by DiZ over the couse of 2 days. This would fit with what Nomura said about the game, as "we know the ending, but not the flow of the story." Granted, I'm paraphrasing that last part, but that sounds good, right?

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 03:15 AM

QUOTE(Karas @ Sep 24 2007, 04:04 PM) View Post

Okay a quick speculation:
"Okay, what if, and I do mean what if, Roxas did contain Ven's heart. If he is remembering Sora's past, could it be possible that he could be haunted by Ven's past? It's just a thought. happy.gif I actually don't believe it (for now).

Roxas came out of Sora though. So for your speculation to be correct, Ven's heart had to have resided in Sora for the full 10 years. And that'd be hitting BbS territory.

@KH2Rulz: If you know it's going to be off-topic, don't post it here.
@Jack Skellington: That sounds pretty good. I like it.

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 05:07 AM

QUOTE(Jack Skellington @ Sep 27 2007, 10:43 AM) View Post

I have a new theory on the title's meaning;

Originally I looked at it as a giant equation. But I started a new KH2 game and I remembered DiZ talking about how Roxas would need a new personality for that week before Sora woke up. I think what this game is is CoM in reverse; We play through Roxas' memories of his year in Organization XIII as they are being erased by DiZ over the couse of 2 days. This would fit with what Nomura said about the game, as "we know the ending, but not the flow of the story." Granted, I'm paraphrasing that last part, but that sounds good, right?


I like the idea. There are many theories to the tittle but i've heard so many good ones i don't know which one is mostly true.

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 06:36 AM

Sakuchan, my original question was whether anyone had noticed that Roxas was using the Kingdom Key as a Keyblade. Forgive me, if I'm wrong, but that isn't off-topic, is it? Because, as far as I can see, only 358/2 Days and the beginning of KH2 have Roxas using the Kingdom Key.

I still have to say, though, why is Roxas using the Kingdom Key instead of his Org XIII weapons?

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 08:55 AM

QUOTE(KH2Rulz @ Sep 27 2007, 04:02 AM) View Post

EDIT: This is relatively off-topic, but do you think that SE is pretty smart making different games for the different platforms? Never put a DS game on PSP or a PSP game on DS...

Right there. You said so yourself. cool.gif

I didn't notice his change in taste for keyblades. But I doubt Days would be going into the origin of the keyblades, because its focus is on the average day for an organization member.

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 04:01 PM

QUOTE(KH2Rulz @ Sep 28 2007, 04:36 PM) View Post

.I still have to say, though, why is Roxas using the Kingdom Key instead of his Org XIII weapons?


The keyblade was his Org XIII weapon.

I think the reason it's only the keyblade is because he doesn't have any memories to attach to it, so it stays in that form.

I was just wondering, how do you think the touch screen will come into play here? Do you think they'll just ignore it or maybe just use it to go into a menu and stuff?

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 04:15 PM

Items. Menu. Character and party selection (if there is any)

no combat stuff, i wouldn't think. that could get messy.

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 04:25 PM

If it was made to be like the new Link game on DS it would be made of fail, not that the Link game is bad, just that it would just ruin the feel.

It shows that part of 4 players, that's wireless mode I think and if it is, then maybe the game is whoever can kill the most Heartless.

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 07:51 PM

http://www.khforums.com/index.php?showtopic=43637

Touch screen topic.

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Posted 30 September 2007 - 01:32 AM

QUOTE(The Cloaked Schemer @ Sep 28 2007, 11:15 AM) View Post

Items. Menu. Character and party selection (if there is any)

no combat stuff, i wouldn't think. that could get messy.


Agree and there's already a topic for that.

Also i always wondered why Roxas never had the original keyblade. Well in Hollow Bastion there was the Oblivion and then Oathkeeper in Traverse Town. Maybe Sora getting these is how Roxas could have gotten his weapons. It's just a theory so i don't know if this is possible.

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 10:20 PM

mr nomura said the the title is a very important riddle and we should try to figure out the riddle and it would do us good. lol 358/2 days i think it means that roxas will die in 179 days.....but in captured in his last days and doesnt die hehehehe

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Posted 04 October 2007 - 11:12 PM

When I was told of this game, my friend forgot to add in the Days at the end. So the theory I built up was:

358: The days Roxas spent with organization. (I think, I haven't playing KH in a long time)

/2: My friend told me the story followed Roxas and Axel. Two people= the number two in the title.

So, in short, it's the year Roxas spent before being taken by Riku, except you would play between Roxas and Axel. When days was added at the end (when I finally got to a computer again and found out) my whole theory was made useless.

A bit off topic, www.kh2.co.uk (or is it .uk.co?) is blocked from where I am. What were the last two updates from the Tokyo Game Show?

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Posted 05 October 2007 - 08:58 PM

QUOTE(Pokemon Champ. Roxas @ Sep 29 2007, 06:32 PM) View Post

Agree and there's already a topic for that.

Also i always wondered why Roxas never had the original keyblade. Well in Hollow Bastion there was the Oblivion and then Oathkeeper in Traverse Town. Maybe Sora getting these is how Roxas could have gotten his weapons. It's just a theory so i don't know if this is possible.



the keyblades are oathkeeper memories of kairi. oblivion memories of riku. roxas doesnt have memories of being sora. so he has these keyblades. if u remember in deep dive after roxas tosses oblivion to riku . he then has the kingdom key.

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Posted 07 October 2007 - 03:55 PM

wow thata a really good explination

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Posted 07 October 2007 - 05:01 PM

I dont know if this has already been speculated but....this game just might have voices seeing as FF4 will have voices in it's cutscenes (well, in the new TGS trailer it did)

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Posted 07 October 2007 - 09:27 PM

That would be cool

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Posted 07 October 2007 - 09:35 PM

yeah it would. hearing axel and the rest during battles.

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 05:36 AM

QUOTE(gin @ Oct 5 2007, 08:58 PM) View Post

the keyblades are oathkeeper memories of kairi. oblivion memories of riku. roxas doesnt have memories of being sora. so he has these keyblades. if u remember in deep dive after roxas tosses oblivion to riku . he then has the kingdom key.



Deep Dive = Concept video.
Any speculation = no.


QUOTE('Cthulu5')

wow thata a really good explination


No, not really. Relying on Deep Dive will cause anyone to fail.

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 05:26 PM

QUOTE(oathkeepersoravalor @ Oct 9 2007, 10:36 PM) View Post


No, not really. Relying on Deep Dive will cause anyone to fail.



so roxas and riku didnt team up to fight the heartless then . since it is just a concept video

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 09:52 PM

QUOTE(gin @ Oct 10 2007, 06:26 PM) View Post

so roxas and riku didnt team up to fight the heartless then . since it is just a concept video


No, they did, but Roxas didn't pull out the kingdom key afterwards. And Mickey wasn't there.

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 10:10 PM

true true just try to show that some of the vid was true. i think 358/2 will end there.

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Posted 10 October 2007 - 10:31 PM

QUOTE(gin @ Oct 10 2007, 05:26 PM) View Post

so roxas and riku didnt team up to fight the heartless then . since it is just a concept video


Yes they did. Just because it actually happened doesn't make my point any less valid.

Deep Dive is a concept video. Not everything that happened in Deep Dive actually happened in the game. I don't put any trust in Deep Dive for said reason.

Major points of Deep Dive were removed from the game, hence the concept part.


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Posted 10 October 2007 - 11:24 PM

QUOTE(oathkeepersoravalor @ Oct 10 2007, 11:31 PM) View Post


Yes they did. Just because it actually happened doesn't make my point any less valid.

Deep Dive is a concept video. Not everything that happened in Deep Dive actually happened in the game. I don't put any trust in Deep Dive for said reason.

Major points of Deep Dive were removed from the game, hence the concept part.



And other major points were not, so don't not trust it at all.

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Posted 11 October 2007 - 01:28 AM

or the major points will be used for this game. very slim.

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Posted 11 October 2007 - 03:53 AM

Except many of them were in KH2.

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