[JustRob]

So how come Sora never (and I mean never) says anything about his parents in KHI and KHII? He definitely had at least a mother, that can be observed early on in KHI on the Destiny Islands, I think.

Yet, he goes off to a grand journey, then sleeps for a year, then goes off on another journey. What the hell? Doesn't he miss his parents? Why is he cuddling around with the Disney guys at the end of KHII? Shouldn't he want to see his parents first after such a long time?

Yeah I know all this is ridicilous, because adding actual characters for Sora's parents would be stupid. Which is why I think they should have just made Sora and the others orphans, instead of having parents. Because it makes no sense.

[isaac12896]

thats the question i'v asked myself for years but wouldnt you rather have sora being motivated and trying to find riku and kairi rather than a bunch of 40 year olds? i guess riku and kairi just have style and are what gamers want to see. plus love (or whatever the hell they see in each other) is a little more emotional and final fantasy like than family love.

[FlipmodeMVP]

It's odd yet understandable, the fact that Sora's mum spoke I think it was just to add to the Drama in that Scene.
I mean KH has so much stuff without the need of bringing Family into it.. I mean like, maybe it was Foster Parent of some sort or even a Sister maybe? Because if you bring his Parents into it, you'd have to question if they knew anything about the Keyblade and such... not to mention that if Kairi is a Princess of Heart, her Mother would also be one? It's weird things like that, that make me glad they seem to disregard having Parents.

On another Note: I did lol that Heartless were invading the Island, massive Storm approaching, weird black Hole thingy in the Sky and... "Sora, dinner's ready!"

[Neo Hartless]

Yeah, I think that's the problem in the entire KH Series, the amount of characters (or rather, people) in each level aren't convincing enough for them to be considered worlds. Just look at Port Royal, Agrabah or Traverse Town, those places are were supposed to be crowded but you only se a dozen people there.

[Mr_Kupo]

Yeah, I think that's the problem in the entire KH Series, the amount of characters (or rather, people) in each level aren't convincing enough for them to be considered worlds. Just look at Port Royal, Agrabah or Traverse Town, those places are were supposed to be crowded but you only se a dozen people there.

Maybe they're all heartless, which stinks.

Adding family into the story just makes it a psychological mess. They'd have to write in more emotional episodes, like "I miss my parents."

[Neo Hartless]

It's better than not aknowloging* their existence for more than two lines.

For me at least.

*Bare with me I'm brazilian.

[Vaerli]

Adding family into the story just makes it a psychological mess. They'd have to write in more emotional episodes, like "I miss my parents."

Isn't that an improvement over the reused "lets go find/help/save kairi" plot?

[Neo Hartless]

I guess they could have shown their parents in the last scene at KHII.

[Mr_Kupo]

Isn't that an improvement over the reused "lets go find/help/save kairi" plot?

Well, if the writers are really brilliant at juggling these, then it'd be fantastic.
Yeah, a reference would have been nice.

[The 15th Member]

Maybe she died. Or turned into a heartless. Who knows.

I've mentioned this before, and the simple answer is: Square Enix is just lazy.

Yeah, I think that's the problem in the entire KH Series, the amount of characters (or rather, people) in each level aren't convincing enough for them to be considered worlds. Just look at Port Royal, Agrabah or Traverse Town, those places are were supposed to be crowded but you only se a dozen people there.

Yah, I've noticed that before...

Once again, I guess they were just too lazy to design more characters.

[Declan]

I always liked to reason that Sora's journey's/travels were all in his head, his imagination - that he drifted off to sleep that night and we play out his dreams. That one scene we have with his mother is what's really going on, just dinner and a stormy night, but Sora's already deep in sleep...

Yeah, it's weird but I like it!

[ShadowOfDarkness92]

I agree with JustRob; it seems very unrealistic that Sora doesn't really think about his parents. I can't even imagine how worried Sora's parents would have been about him - I mean, he disappeared off the face of Destiny Islands for more than a year!

[Sorkairiku]

I always liked to reason that Sora's journey's/travels were all in his head, his imagination - that he drifted off to sleep that night and we play out his dreams. That one scene we have with his mother is what's really going on, just dinner and a stormy night, but Sora's already deep in sleep...

Yeah, it's weird but I like it!

If that actually turned out to be the case, I would cry. A lot.

Yeah... I have to admit that I've thought about the unknown parents too. Even Riku said, at the destruction of the Islands, "We may never see our parents again," and that was the last we hear of them.

Oh, wait a second, there was a reference to Kairi being "at the mayor's house" in that one flashback in KH1. That brings up another parental issue; Kairi's parents in the Radiant Garden, who had their five-year-old daughter cast into space and never seen by them again. That, or she was raised by that grandmother who spontaneously vanished in the castle library...

It's a plot hole, but I don't think it's one to worry about so much. It's not like it ruins the entire game or anything. (at least not for me)

[caine]

i think these are plot holes purposely left in order to open new directions to the story line, maybe after the events of BBS and the official 3rd installment in sora's story the presence of parents, and kairi's grandmother will come full circle.

i think Nomura is like Kojima they love to twist things in plot stories so in the end you can say "why didn't i think of that before?" we just gotta wait and see.

i like Declan's post, that's exactly what i'd like to think would happen at the very end of the franchise lol!

[7Knight-Wolf]

I'm sure Sora misses his parents, Squeenix just didn't have the time to put that into the game.

Anyway, whoever said that all the worlds are to shallow is exactly right. All the worlds have too much inconsitstency and problems...especially those that are supposed to in OUR world, like London, which they include in Pan's world, and Agrabah, which should be in the middle east, and Beast's Castle, which is supposed to be in France! With these inconsistencies, no people around, and no geography outside of one small town each, the worlds are hopelessly shallow!

[Neo Hartless]

Oh, wait a second, there was a reference to Kairi being "at the mayor's house" in that one flashback in KH1. That brings up another parental issue; Kairi's parents in the Radiant Garden, who had their five-year-old daughter cast into space and never seen by them again. That, or she was raised by that grandmother who spontaneously vanished in the castle library...

You got it wrong, her grandmother died at Hollow Bastion and I can only assume she was adopted by the mayor...

[JaronZalinto]

There is no evidence what so ever that her grandmother is dead. It can be inferred simply due to age and the time line of the series but there is no proof. We know nothing about Kairi's origins aside from that she hailed from Radiant Garden and that Ansem the Wise knew full well she was a Princess of Heart. Also, the reason Kairi showed up on Destiny Islands is because of Radiant Garden being overrun with heartless and darkness. The rough time she arrived on Destiny Islands coincides with the corruption of Radiant Garden. Since the world wasn't actually destroyed we can only assume that she was sent away by someone. Probably in order to protect her.

I agree with JustRob; it seems very unrealistic that Sora doesn't really think about his parents. I can't even imagine how worried Sora's parents would have been about him - I mean, he disappeared off the face of Destiny Islands for more than a year!

They forgot about him for that entire year. As did everyone else who had ties to Sora.

~Jaron

[Grassy]

They forgot about him for that entire year. As did everyone else who had ties to Sora.

Not to mention

Finally, about the people on Destiny Island, at the time of Sora and groups disappearance, on the night of the storm from the previous game, Destiny Island itself ended up disappearing and for the people of that world time is stopped. Afterwards, Sora slept for 1 year, and then everyone's memories of Sora himself were no longer there. As such the memory actually became "On the night of the storm, Riku's body disappeared". Once Sora awoke, the memories of him returned. Eventually the memories of Sora, just as Riku was no longer there after the storm that night, were that both of them had disappeared.

So it was either timeless oblivion or literally losing memories. Either way, not much room for worrying about Sora.

That's not to say that Sora didn't think about his parents. I mean, Riku did say that they "may never see [their] parents again."
Whether or not he was thinking about them is sort of irrelevant though. It's not supposed to be a focus of the game.

[Sorkairiku]

You got it wrong, her grandmother died at Hollow Bastion and I can only assume she was adopted by the mayor...

There is no evidence what so ever that her grandmother is dead. It can be inferred simply due to age and the time line of the series but there is no proof. We know nothing about Kairi's origins aside from that she hailed from Radiant Garden and that Ansem the Wise knew full well she was a Princess of Heart. Also, the reason Kairi showed up on Destiny Islands is because of Radiant Garden being overrun with heartless and darkness. The rough time she arrived on Destiny Islands coincides with the corruption of Radiant Garden. Since the world wasn't actually destroyed we can only assume that she was sent away by someone. Probably in order to protect her.

I read it in an Ansem Report. Kairi was cast into space by Xehanort's heartless in hopes that she would land wherever the keyblade master was. Evidently, it worked.

What I was saying earlier is that I think there's a possibility of Kairi's grandmother raising her when she was living in the Radiant Garden, until she was five. In the flashback, when Sora sees Kairi in the library with her grandmother, her grandmother seems to vanish into thin air. If that really happened, then Xehanort cast her out shortly after that. Then I was referring to the flashback of Sora and Riku, where one of them says something like, "Hey, did you see the new girl at the mayor's house? She came on the night of the meteor shower!"

[Declan]

i like Declan's post, that's exactly what i'd like to think would happen at the very end of the franchise lol!

After the ending to FFX, It's very much a possibility.

[Neo Hartless]

After the ending to FFX, It's very much a possibility.

But the ending to FFX only takes place after FFX-2.

It's not him waking up and finding out it didn't really happen!

Besides, your idea already exists in Alice's Adventures in Wonderland.

[The 15th Member]

Plus that would just be a little toooo crazy.


Besides, how could so much stuff happen in one dream?


Not to mention...

I don't think anyone's imagination is that wild, that they could dream all that.


Alice being the exception. I'm pretty sure she was high at the time anyway.

[JaronZalinto]

I read it in an Ansem Report. Kairi was cast into space by Xehanort's heartless in hopes that she would land wherever the keyblade master was. Evidently, it worked.

I haven't read the Ansem's Reports in a long time. Neither original or KH2 reports. While I do recall a mentioning of Kairi in one I can't remember if Xehanort (or Ansem) himself was the one to send Kairi off. Still though, there is no evidence to say that Kairi's grandmother died. Though, if she were alive, you'd think we'd have seen her in the restored Radiant Garden at some point. But we don't get to explore every inch of every world. So she could very well be somewhere we didn't have access too.

EDIT @Above: Dreams are very extravagant creations of the mind. Even if you don't have the creativity necessary to consciously create a world of such depth your mind does hold the ability to do so while unconscious. We don't usually remember all of our dream(s) if we remember them at all. But, I can assure you that vast worlds and intriguing scenarios have been created by you and I alike.
~Jaron

[dumdumdumbutt]

i bet sora didn't get anything for his mom on her birthday
i bet he even forgot about it



that dick

[Sorkairiku]

I haven't read the Ansem's Reports in a long time. Neither original or KH2 reports. While I do recall a mentioning of Kairi in one I can't remember if Xehanort (or Ansem) himself was the one to send Kairi off. Still though, there is no evidence to say that Kairi's grandmother died. Though, if she were alive, you'd think we'd have seen her in the restored Radiant Garden at some point. But we don't get to explore every inch of every world. So she could very well be somewhere we didn't have access too.

That could be true about her grandmother, but on the other hand, in the memory Sora saw, little Kairi was looking around like she didn't know where her grandma went. That might not be relevant, but I really don't know, and I guess it may not have meant that she died.

I'm pretty sure it was Xehanort's Heartless, considering that he then, eventually, followed her to the Destiny Islands and appeared there as the cloaked figure that talked to Sora in the secret place.