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#76 User is offline   Ratticus 

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Posted 21 February 2011 - 09:30 PM

View PostKeystaff Master, on 21 January 2011 - 11:04 AM, said:

So, here's a question, should we look at the new Arena bosses as part of the canon? Is the Mirage Arena even canon at all for that matter?

Should we look at Armor of the Master and No Heart as the Lingering Sentiments of Eraqus and Master Xehanort?

These are good questions. Dividing on if which is more important than the other. Seeing as Xemnas used the same Armor as No Heart is really interesting.

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Posted 24 February 2011 - 02:11 AM

I have question, is the keyblade of No Heart different than Master Xehanort's keyblade?

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Posted 14 January 2012 - 10:40 PM

I'm pretty sure at least one person came to this conclusion, but anyone think the "Mysterious Figure" is actually Young Xehanort (who was in the KH3D trailer)? He looks like he has the same height and build as him.

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Posted 18 January 2012 - 12:05 PM

Im not sure, but based on observation and wepons...I have to agree with you on that Ryusuke.

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Posted 19 January 2012 - 11:06 AM

...and one day later, it's confirmed it is. Huh.

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 03:06 PM

Confirmed to be Xehanort?

The interview says he's a "mysterious golden-eyed man", it didn't specify any previous character, and golden eyes means anyone with ties to the darkness.


Like a yet-unseen human form of one Organization XIII member.

Plus, we already have three Xehanorts in this game!

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Posted 21 January 2012 - 04:14 PM

It's not confirmed. It's just fan speculation because Vanitas was around him, he kinda looks like how Terra-nort would look like if he were younger and secret bosses tend to be connected to him in some way. Personally I hope it's a new character that isn't the same guy but connected in a different way, but eh.

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Posted 22 January 2012 - 11:23 PM

Yeah, I'm tired of hundreds of Xehanorts.

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Posted 26 January 2012 - 11:40 PM

Guys, it's Xehanort. The boy in the trailer with the silver spikey hair is young Xehanort. If you look at the face of the model of Young Xehanort in Birth by Sleep it's the same.

Xehanort and Sora are perfect foils in this way. 3D seems to be a showcase of counterparts. Yen Sid foreshadowed this.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 12:22 AM

http://t3.gstatic.co...ehanort.png&t=1

His face looks pretty different to me. ...Guess that means Terra is still stuck with Xehanort.

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 12:33 AM

View PostRyusuke, on 27 January 2012 - 12:22 AM, said:

http://t3.gstatic.co...ehanort.png&t=1

His face looks pretty different to me. ...Guess that means Terra is still stuck with Xehanort.


Have a better look.

http://images4.wikia...terXehanort.png
http://images.wikia....hanortTerra.png

Terra's face is a little rounder:
http://images.wikia....5/Terranort.png

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Posted 27 January 2012 - 12:56 AM

View PostYour Favorite Person, on 27 January 2012 - 12:33 AM, said:


Strange. How come model I posted has a more slanted face than the one you posted? Weird. But, yeah, OK. Now, I can see some resemblance and it definitely isn't Terra-Xehanort, but Xehanort himself.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 05:55 PM

View PostRyusuke, on 14 January 2012 - 10:40 PM, said:

I'm pretty sure at least one person came to this conclusion, but anyone think the "Mysterious Figure" is actually Young Xehanort (who was in the KH3D trailer)? He looks like he has the same height and build as him.


The weird thing about that is the Mysterious Figure actually has a different build than YMX.
Too lazy to posts comparisons but I've been looking at Organization models for so long now it's pretty easy to spot the difference. If you look at hooded YMX in the trailer and compare it to MF, they're different. YMX's build is closer to KH1 Riku/Roxas in an Organization suit (smaller/thinner), whereas MF has a build more like Saix/Xemnas (taller/buffer).

But we know that YMX=MF so I'm wondering why there's this disparity. Either his size was retconned (which would not really be a big deal since the MF battle is more of a concept thing to begin with, I doubt it will have any impact on the canon), or this has an actual in-story explanation, like he can shape-shift or he's at a different age.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 06:08 PM

View PostGrassy, on 10 February 2012 - 05:55 PM, said:

But we know that YMX=MF so I'm wondering why there's this disparity. Either his size was retconned (which would not really be a big deal since the MF battle is more of a concept thing to begin with, I doubt it will have any impact on the canon), or this has an actual in-story explanation, like he can shape-shift or he's at a different age.


Both seem equally likely, but I'm thinking the former. Terra and the Lingering Spirit certainly aren't the same size, for example.

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 06:42 PM

View PostRyusuke, on 27 January 2012 - 12:56 AM, said:

Strange. How come model I posted has a more slanted face than the one you posted? Weird. But, yeah, OK. Now, I can see some resemblance and it definitely isn't Terra-Xehanort, but Xehanort himself.


i don't know, i'm still a little bit skeptical. that guy is a lot younger than terra as we know him, i think it's unfair to rule out the idea that he is tehanort. as men grow older their jaw lines fill out more, giving the illusion of a rounder face..
this guy still looks to be 15.

it isn't that i necessarily think it is tehanort, but, considering everything that has surrounded terra and xehanort in the last games, it seems unlikely that they're just going to wipe terra out. D:

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Posted 10 February 2012 - 08:47 PM

View PostShay, on 10 February 2012 - 06:42 PM, said:


it isn't that i necessarily think it is tehanort, but, considering everything that has surrounded terra and xehanort in the last games, it seems unlikely that they're just going to wipe terra out. D:


Xemnas and Ansem Seeker of Darkness already have Terra's body as well. It's not like there's a lack of Terra in Xehanort's presence in this game. I'm just saying, the Hooded Xehanort looks more like the Birth by Sleep incarnation than he does Terranort and the Birth by Sleep version seems a little older. I'm not ruling it out, but the odds aren't stacked. Meh, who even knows. The Mysterious Figure doesn't make a lot of sense at the moment any way you slice him.

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