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BbS Final Mix Confirmed itt Nomura trolls the English release

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 11:56 AM

View PostKieranCarden, on 19 September 2010 - 10:22 AM, said:

I wouldn't be surprised if they added both. I'd like to see some scenes with say, Organization XIII forming, all the members coming together one-by-one, etc... Or maybe showing Mickey going to the Realm of Darkness and getting the Kingdom Key D... heck there's a lot of things they could add to it.

If they have Mick going to the Realm of Darkness or the Organization forming, I sure hope they were sneaky and made the English VAs record those scenes...won't happen, but hey...

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 04:06 PM

View PostRyusuke, on 19 September 2010 - 11:56 AM, said:

If they have Mick going to the Realm of Darkness or the Organization forming, I sure hope they were sneaky and made the English VAs record those scenes...won't happen, but hey...


Yeah that would be nice... That makes me wonder exactly how they're going to do the extra scenes, and where they're going to fit them in. It would really throw off the Secret Episode if in the middle they had voiceless scenes with only subtitles to follow along. Might not be such a big deal if they add extra scenes to the end of it, but that would kind of ruin the closure that it already has, I think.

Meh, I guess the game is catered towards the Japanese audience (unless it is international), so the subtitle thing probably wouldn't be a major issue. It happened for FM+; I can see it happening again.

I still wanna see those scenes... probably won't happen though :(

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Posted 19 September 2010 - 08:43 PM

One thing guys, when you say "we", you mean the people getting the american release, right?

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 03:06 AM

View PostNeo Hartless, on 19 September 2010 - 08:43 PM, said:

One thing guys, when you say "we", you mean the people getting the american release, right?


If you're referring to this...

View Post-Azarath-, on 19 September 2010 - 01:04 AM, said:

Wonder if we'll get a new Secret Ending like we did for KH: FM and KHII: FM+?

View PostRyusuke, on 19 September 2010 - 01:09 AM, said:

We're getting a Secret Episode. So...

View PostKieranCarden, on 19 September 2010 - 08:10 AM, said:

Isn't it just additional scenes to fill in some mysteries? It's not like we're getting a brand new secret ending, just more scenes added into it.


...then I think it's more a general "we as a KH fanbase" - that's how I use the term anyway. Outside of the forums, whether or not you actually buy BbS:FM, we as a collective fanbase are getting additional content, etc etc etc. I also use "we" to describe us as a group of forum goers all with a common interest. As I don't really talk about KH much outside of being active here, "we" would then refer to everyone here :)

I guess I never really thought about how it could be referred to people getting the American release. But to answer your question directly, I was not referring to only people getting the American release - more of a general collective fanbase statement. If that makes sense.

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 08:38 AM

View PostKieranCarden, on 20 September 2010 - 03:06 AM, said:

If you're referring to this...





...then I think it's more a general "we as a KH fanbase" - that's how I use the term anyway. Outside of the forums, whether or not you actually buy BbS:FM, we as a collective fanbase are getting additional content, etc etc etc. I also use "we" to describe us as a group of forum goers all with a common interest. As I don't really talk about KH much outside of being active here, "we" would then refer to everyone here :)

I guess I never really thought about how it could be referred to people getting the American release. But to answer your question directly, I was not referring to only people getting the American release - more of a general collective fanbase statement. If that makes sense.

It does now that you explained it.

Thanks.

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 11:08 AM

While FM's piss me off to no end, I am as always keen to see what new content/storyline they're going to reveal.
And who knows? Maybe even NA might get the extra content as DLC.
But there is no love for Europe ;_; Why Nomura? Why?

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Posted 20 September 2010 - 01:37 PM

View PostDeclan, on 20 September 2010 - 11:08 AM, said:

But there is no love for Europe ;_; Why Nomura? Why?

IT'S BECAUSE WE WOOPED THEIR ASS IN THE WAR!
lol jk
I totally agree. Rather frustrating if you ask me.

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 07:07 AM

I think the Final Mix is great news, predictably, stab yourself in the foot news.
But painfully good all the same.
on the content though...
I think for Monstro it may be more creative than just an arena battle.
Perhaps to throw people off the simply showed the re-battle you can do inside the mirage arena.
Armored Eraqus will be most awesome... makes me wonder about Armored Xehanort...

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 08:20 AM

http://heartstation.org/archives/2405

* Out of the new additions, the biggest is probably the boss battle with the person wearing an Organization coat from the North American version. The true nature of this battle can’t be revealed yet.
* Besides, compared to the Final Mixes up until now, there aren’t as many added elements so a number of additional bosses were added.
* The armored character from the end of the Tokyo Game Show trailer can be fought in the Mirage Arena. What his existence is, if you saw his name it’d be easy to understand. He’s even stronger than the man in the Organization coat.
* You can fight the armored character, though it’s very difficult. When Director Nomura played against it, he lost every time.
* It can be challenged playing one-player, but its strength is even greater than the man in the Organization coat. During development, it was called the strongest enemy of all the additional bosses.
* Among other additions, they include the choice to play on the most difficult Critical Mode, Megaflare is weakened, and the facial models of young Sora, Riku, and Kairi have been upgraded to higher quality models.
* Also the Secret Episode was added. As for the additional Secret movie, it’s still secret. The contents are being prepared. The requirements to see the new Secret movie are simple.


New secret ending. Hoping this one is a concept video akin to DD/ASAS/BbS.


View PostStoryKing, on 22 September 2010 - 07:07 AM, said:

I think for Monstro it may be more creative than just an arena battle.
Perhaps to throw people off the simply showed the re-battle you can do inside the mirage arena.


You mean like a Pinocchio world? I doubt that.
The game follows a very rigid timeline. When one character is at point A, another character is at point B, and vice versa. Fitting in an entirely new world would be nearly impossible. At the very least, it'd be surprising.

I really just think it's exclusive to Mirage Arena. If they were going to add an entire world, you'd figure it'd be Jungle Book considering they had already created a handful of areas.

View PostStoryKing, on 22 September 2010 - 07:07 AM, said:

Armored Eraqus will be most awesome... makes me wonder about Armored Xehanort...


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View PostStoryKing, on 22 September 2010 - 07:07 AM, said:

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 08:35 AM

View PostGrassy, on 22 September 2010 - 08:20 AM, said:

http://heartstation.org/archives/2405


* You can fight the armored character, though it’s very difficult. When Director Nomura played against it, he lost every time.
* It can be challenged playing one-player, but its strength is even greater than the man in the Organization coat. During development, it was called the strongest enemy of all the additional bosses.


I've always got the impression that Nomura sucks at playing his own games, so this means nothing to me. XP

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 08:47 AM

Well it's hard to tell since they give us such a brief glimpse of Eraqus' in his armor but if you remove all the crazy belt stuff off of Armored Xemnas there is bit of similarity, plus we get the best view of the back of Eraqus'armor and i don't think armored xemnas ever stands up.

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Posted 22 September 2010 - 11:17 AM

View PostGrassy, on 22 September 2010 - 08:20 AM, said:

http://heartstation.org/archives/2405
* Besides, compared to the Final Mixes up until now, there aren’t as many added elements so a number of additional bosses were added.

I dunno how to take this exactly... if they're referring to Mysterious Figure and Eraqus's Lingering Sentiment, or if there's going to be more bosses than what we're expecting.


View PostGrassy, on 22 September 2010 - 08:20 AM, said:

* Among other additions, they include the choice to play on the most difficult Critical Mode, Megaflare is weakened, and the facial models of young Sora, Riku, and Kairi have been upgraded to higher quality models.

Booo, you suck Final Mix (in regards to Megaflare).


View PostGrassy, on 22 September 2010 - 08:20 AM, said:

* Also the Secret Episode was added. As for the additional Secret movie, it’s still secret. The contents are being prepared. The requirements to see the new Secret movie are simple.

Caaaaalled it. People need to start listening to me more, lol xD

View PostKieranCarden, on 15 September 2010 - 02:06 PM, said:

What I am expecting though is either an extended Blank Points ending (dunno what they would add), or an entirely new, additional secret ending. Additional secret endings seem to be the main reason Final Mix games are released in the first place.


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Posted 22 September 2010 - 12:35 PM

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It can be challenged playing one-player, but its strength is even greater than the man in the Organization coat. During development, it was called the strongest enemy of all the additional bosses.

Sonofabitch! ><

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 01:30 AM

View PostKieranCarden, on 22 September 2010 - 11:17 AM, said:

Caaaaalled it. People need to start listening to me more, lol xD

No, we shouldn't. You're the bringer of bad luck. You should be ashamed of yourself. :angry:

:P

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New secret ending. Hoping this one is a concept video akin to DD/ASAS/BbS.

Might as well be. Re:coded's secret ending is just a short cutscene.

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 04:04 AM

View PostKieranCarden, on 22 September 2010 - 11:17 AM, said:

I dunno how to take this exactly... if they're referring to Mysterious Figure and Eraqus's Lingering Sentiment, or if there's going to be more bosses than what we're expecting.


There's also Monstro.
Other than that, I'd be surprised if there were any more additional bosses.
It says that compared to previous Final Mixes, there isn't much more in this one.


View PostKieranCarden, on 22 September 2010 - 11:17 AM, said:

Booo, you suck Final Mix (in regards to Megaflare)


That was done in the English version, actually.
Megaflare needed to be nerfed because it made everything too easy.

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Posted 23 September 2010 - 10:46 AM

View PostRyusuke, on 23 September 2010 - 01:30 AM, said:

No, we shouldn't. You're the bringer of bad luck. You should be ashamed of yourself. :angry:

:P

Haha, you're just mad cause I was hoping for Final Mix from the beginning XD


View PostGrassy, on 23 September 2010 - 04:04 AM, said:

There's also Monstro.
Other than that, I'd be surprised if there were any more additional bosses.
It says that compared to previous Final Mixes, there isn't much more in this one.

Hmm, I took it more as since there isn't as much content as previous Final Mix games they're adding more bosses to this Final Mix. *Shrug* I dunno though. With the extras the international version got, and what Final Mix is getting, I'm pretty happy with all the extra stuff to do.


View PostGrassy, on 23 September 2010 - 04:04 AM, said:

That was done in the English version, actually.
Megaflare needed to be nerfed because it made everything too easy.

Really? I use it to grind and I didn't really notice a difference between versions. Megaflare still annihilates everything for me pretty easily. Oh well, I guess if that's the case then maybe it won't be noticeable since it already happened xD

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 09:13 AM

View PostKieranCarden, on 23 September 2010 - 10:46 AM, said:

Haha, you're just mad cause I was hoping for Final Mix from the beginning XD

RAAAAAAAAAAGE AND DESTRUCTION AWAIT YOU!

Nah, now why would I be? You got what you wanted. :P

That said...


....there doesn't seem much in FM to warrant a second purchase if you ask me.

Ah well. Let's give a hand to Kieran to being right.

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 10:05 AM

View PostRyusuke, on 24 September 2010 - 09:13 AM, said:

RAAAAAAAAAAGE AND DESTRUCTION AWAIT YOU!

Nah, now why would I be? You got what you wanted. :P

That said...


....there doesn't seem much in FM to warrant a second purchase if you ask me.

Ah well. Let's give a hand to Kieran to being right.

You're too kind xD

You're probably right though about a second purchase (third for me) not being warranted. Everyone has their thing though that they're fanatical over; Kingdom Hearts happens to be mine ^_^ so I'll buy it regardless just to have it.

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Posted 24 September 2010 - 11:56 PM

View PostKieranCarden, on 23 September 2010 - 10:46 AM, said:

Hmm, I took it more as since there isn't as much content as previous Final Mix games they're adding more bosses to this Final Mix. *Shrug* I dunno though. With the extras the international version got, and what Final Mix is getting, I'm pretty happy with all the extra stuff to do.


Yeah, it would seem to say that. I just think the three additional bosses counts as "a number of additional bosses."
I figured that they would have shown any other new bosses in the trailer. If you look back to the original KH1FM trailer shown at TGS, they pretty much showcased all the major additions to the game. So there really would be no reason for them to hide any new bosses.

But, hey, I hope you're right.
This game needs a fight with the evil Queen and at least one new Titan.

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 12:21 AM

The evil queen could potentially be a frightening boss. Just look at her transformation in Snow White. Freakin trippy.

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Posted 25 September 2010 - 01:46 PM

http://www.famitsu.c...9/25034046.html

Some high quality pics, nothing new.
But we do get a great look at the new boss.

Spoiler


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Posted 25 September 2010 - 03:04 PM

**Spoiler**We know it's Master Eraqus because of his stance when he fights Terra. Same stance. Not only his shoes, but his armour that covers his groin area is the same as the armored figure.**

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 06:23 AM



Someone over at KHI mentioned that it appeared Terra was using Ven's Keyblade:
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Weird, huh?
Personally, I still want to use MX and Eraqus' keyblades.
MX's keyblade should be exclusive to Terra, Eraqus' keyblade should be exclusive to Aqua, and Void Gear should have been exclusive to Ven.

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 08:55 AM

View PostGrassy, on 28 September 2010 - 06:23 AM, said:

Someone over at KHI mentioned that it appeared Terra was using Ven's Keyblade:
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It looks like that takes place in Radiant Garden. I don't remember a scene where Terra wears his armor there. So this must be an extra scene or mission or boss fight.

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Posted 28 September 2010 - 09:21 AM

View PostAl3xX420, on 28 September 2010 - 08:55 AM, said:

It looks like that takes place in Radiant Garden. I don't remember a scene where Terra wears his armor there. So this must be an extra scene or mission or boss fight.

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