Who is sad that Organization 13 is gone?
#1
Posted 30 May 2011 - 09:15 AM
#2
Posted 30 May 2011 - 10:30 PM
#3
Posted 31 May 2011 - 04:17 AM
I feel as if they we're square's way of making kingdom hearts into a more serious game, less disney fluff stuff, more action and drama, etc.
Although after playing 358/2 days, I feel that sora's relationship with riku and kairi was played over again through roxas, axel, and xion, which I felt was unnecessary.
I need to play the other KH games, like BBS.
#4
Posted 13 June 2011 - 11:41 PM
1.) The Org. brings about a lot of fangirls and such who are more obsessed with the characters and yaoi pairings that really detracts from the over all quality of an otherwise dedicated fanbase.
2.) They were very well handled and developed in CoM, but KH2 ruined them. They had very few appearances and their intentions weren't very well delved into until 358/2 Days. They were horribly under-developed and some never even had their names said in the dialogue (which I find to be inexcusable).
3.) They were a cool concept, but I don't think Nomura handled them very well. Arguably he used the best elements and most interesting members during CoM and left KH2 with very little to work with. Characters like Vexen, Zexion, and Lexaeus had a history and could play off of eachother, while you have a lot of lone wolves in KH2 like Luxord, Demyx, and Xigbar (because they're never really talking to the other members, you really can't understand their placement in the Org.).
#5
Posted 14 June 2011 - 12:22 AM
#6
Posted 10 July 2011 - 06:25 PM
#7
Posted 25 July 2011 - 11:44 AM
Keystaff Master, on 13 June 2011 - 11:41 PM, said:
1.) The Org. brings about a lot of fangirls and such who are more obsessed with the characters and yaoi pairings that really detracts from the over all quality of an otherwise dedicated fanbase.
2.) They were very well handled and developed in CoM, but KH2 ruined them. They had very few appearances and their intentions weren't very well delved into until 358/2 Days. They were horribly under-developed and some never even had their names said in the dialogue (which I find to be inexcusable).
3.) They were a cool concept, but I don't think Nomura handled them very well. Arguably he used the best elements and most interesting members during CoM and left KH2 with very little to work with. Characters like Vexen, Zexion, and Lexaeus had a history and could play off of eachother, while you have a lot of lone wolves in KH2 like Luxord, Demyx, and Xigbar (because they're never really talking to the other members, you really can't understand their placement in the Org.).
The first reason is why I'm glad that the Organization XIII hype has died down a little. Other than that, I'd like to know more about them - but it looks as though no more will be revealed about Organization XIII.
#8
Posted 29 July 2011 - 07:35 PM
#9
Posted 05 September 2011 - 11:32 AM
Keystaff Master: I think Braig/Xigbar's story is covered as of BbS, so I'm counting on him to return as a villain in KH3.
#10
Posted 05 September 2011 - 03:26 PM
#11
Posted 06 September 2011 - 12:30 AM
#12
Posted 17 September 2011 - 06:45 PM
#14
Posted 07 November 2011 - 05:58 PM
#15
Posted 12 November 2011 - 01:24 PM
#16
Posted 29 November 2011 - 09:55 PM
Also, I always felt the CoM members were way more intense than any of the KH2 members, other than Saix, then again I always liked the CoM story than the KH2 story so that could just be biased
#17
Posted 30 November 2011 - 09:30 PM
The Laughter Is Back, on 29 November 2011 - 09:55 PM, said:
Also, I always felt the CoM members were way more intense than any of the KH2 members, other than Saix, then again I always liked the CoM story than the KH2 story so that could just be biased
The CoM members certainly seemed to have more face time. KH2 is guilty for not delving more into the Org members' personalities. I didn't care for Luxord, but I thought Demyx, Marly and Larx have eccentric and amusing personalities. I'd like to see their "Somebodies," especially Larxene. She was such a bitter melon that it makes me wonder how she might have been in a previous life. Nobody becomes so completely and unrepentingly spiteful without a history.
#18
Posted 06 January 2012 - 05:10 PM
sakuchan, on 30 November 2011 - 09:30 PM, said:
Did you skip Days or something? I thought it developed the non-CoM members a lot more. Just because they didn't get as much face time as Axel and Xion and Saix, you still got to learn more about them and their personalities. Honestly, I'm surprised at most of the replies in this thread, it's like they haven't played Days. Because, really... I don't understand how anyone could think that what was given to us in 358/2 Days was not enough. It was just about almost everything I could ask for, Organization wise. Xigbar, especially. Demyx and Luxord too. Luxord's character may still be a little mysterious, but he had a great deal of awesome quotes from Days.
But I doubt Nomura is completely scrapping the Organization-legacy. They are one of the biggest selling tools of this franchise. Also:
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Also, I always felt the CoM members were way more intense than any of the KH2 members, other than Saix, then again I always liked the CoM story than the KH2 story so that could just be biased
This. The CoM members were certainly developed well in CoM, but I have no doubt that eventually we will find out these four unknown Somebodies. Especially Marluxia. I mean, c'mon, he was a final boss! Larxene also raises a bit of curiosity as to what she was like.
But, Nomura said that the "Xehanort saga" is still not gonna be over until after KH3. And think about it, if you watched the preview video of Yen Sid explaining why Xehanort will "revive", so... that's one way they could show those Somebodies.
Let's not also forget... if I'm not mistaken, the Organization Nobodies were created as a result of the somebodies (Braig, Dilan, etc.) being turned into Heartless. But where are these Heartless? Xehanort's was defeated at the end of KH1, and Sora's... well, we know, but the other 11 Heartless have to exist somewhere. I doubt they just turned into random Shadows and Soldiers.
So.. perhaps they'll show up in a future game?
This post has been edited by Zak: 06 January 2012 - 05:10 PM
#19
Posted 15 January 2012 - 06:59 PM
#20
Posted 17 February 2012 - 09:31 AM
I bet dollars to donuts Nomura will throw in cameos of Marluxia/Larxene/Luxord/Demyx's somebodies in the future.
If you're missing the Organization coats... well... they've kind of been done to death. I mean, they've appeared in every game since KH2. D:
Time to stop re-using clothes, Nomura.
#21
Posted 28 February 2012 - 03:28 AM
#22
Posted 01 March 2012 - 06:07 AM
#23
Posted 01 March 2012 - 06:54 AM
Rob, on 01 March 2012 - 06:07 AM, said:
Oh yeah, you're right. I remember that Lea=Axel, Isa=Saix, Ienzo=Zexion. I can't remember the rest. But they're not gone just "in sleep".
This post has been edited by Tsubasa Uehara: 02 March 2012 - 04:33 AM
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Posted 01 March 2012 - 08:27 AM

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