[soralover]

I guess it has always been the dark ones because it would confuse people if the 'good guys' did it instead.
(Though it would add a twist...)

- Soralover

[Enigmatic Man]

Hey, I like Namine. She was forced to bend Sora's mind. If she could've gotten together with him without doing that, she would have. But the Organization were ruthless, and wanted results, so she had no choice.

Kairi wasn't perfect either. She was, after all, a key to the ultimate darkness. Isn't that just as bad as brainwashing, if not worse?

[mischael]

We can already tell that Sora most likely will end up with Kairi, neither of them have something wrong with them, Namine or Kairi, they just have abilities that can be exploited Namine a little weaker because she could have done something to fight earlier but you get my point.

[kuro-kaze]

No way Kairi is Sora's best friend and that's not going to change. Besides his promise to Kairi was stronger than the power of Namine.

Hm...after reading threw my post it does sound like I said Sora and Namine should be together, but no I didn't mean Namine and Sora should be together, in fact I highly believe Sora and Kairi should be together. I'm just saying that I thought Namine was cooler.

[Kikyo]

Once again, I step in.  There is no evidence in COM at all that Namine wanted to make him lonely, the game states that Marluxia forced her into it.  Think about it, Marluxia is pure evil!  He could have even used child abuse to get Namine to do his bidding!  Namine never really had much of a choice until Axel set her free.  She is not evil at all.

I dislike meaningless Kairi bashing and I dislike meaningless Namine bashing.  If you're going to bash, please establish the cold hard facts from the games to justify it.

That's right but if she knew sora and cared about him, if she wanted to be his friend, she wouldn't done that. Anyways Sora got his memories back, end of dicussion.

[mischael]

Who said they forced her, she's a kid who has been lonely for years, maybe from when she was born, suddenly she is surrounded with companions, hey i'd do the same thing too.

[shadow]

i can't choose..kairi and namine are both kinda hot but i don't get it...namine is the one behind soras memorie lost...

[Akai Usagi]

I do believe you all are just Kairi fans trying to bash anything that can compete with her.  To me, Kairi's annoying.  She is so 2-Dimensional.  Out of all the Princesses of Heart, she is the most boring (and that's counting Snow White!).  She has no personality, she's ugly during all in-game scenes (CG isn't in-game), and, to me, she always had this thing against Riku.  She tore Riku and Sora apart, and, to me, that makes her the b*tch, not Namine.  Anyone who can break two friends apart without any hint of regret can't be pure.

Namine, on the other hand, HAS personality, she's prettier than Kairi (I can't believe a blond's more good-looking), and she definitely has more reason to do what she does.  Not to mention, Namine didn't commit her acts on purpose.  She changed Sora's memory because the Unknowns forced her, and anyone who thinks otherwise is an idiot.  This is why, at the end, she restores Sora's memories, because she has a heart and knows that what she did, even if unintentional on her part, was wrong.  Whereas Kairi couldn't care less if Riku died and never came back from Hollow Bastion as long as she got to have Sora's complete attention.

Well said.

My vote goes for Namine most definately.

Namine had nobody to call family or friend, she was all alone and 'in nobody's heart'. Then later, she is used to hurt others against her will and threatened yet still she undoes all the damage done to Sora. Not to mention this girl has guts, I mean, at least at one point in COM, Namine stands up to an organization member (before Sora fights them. Sorry, can't remember the member) in order to protect Sora [near the end of the game] It may have been Larxene or Marlucia... I think Larxene (last battle with her) .

If Namine was supposedly a 'mind twisting bitch', emphasis on the bitch, then she wouldn't have helped Sora in any way or wouldn't have had shown any sort of remorse for what she had done. Guys, she had an organization to face up to if she tried to stop, think about it, what else could she do? Not only that but she put Sora's memories back together and she stayed with him until the linking of his memories had reached completion. Oh yeah, a mind twisting bitch that one is.

As for Kairi...

Best to call her flirtatious-selfish-bitch.
To me, Kairi is one of those hero's-love-interest-characters who is at one point all 'I can take care of myself' and then the next second 'save me, I'm so helpless'. *coughmary-suecough*

Granted, Kairi does seem to care for Sora. BUT, she totally acts as if Riku isn't part of the picture until she sees him in person. Ouch.

Ursula mentioned various aspects of such annoying attributes of Kairi. Heck, she even provided a scene to prove so.

Enigmatic Man, your post is awesome too.

One question that has been bothering me for some time:

Does Kairi even DO anything to help build the raft?

Don't get your noOb undies in a bundle.

Grow up.

[Your Favorite Person]

that last line alone is enough to make me wanna marry you now
I go for Namine..why? because I feel like I actually know her I went through exlporeing her charcter and meeting her for the first time while seeing her true self and her selflessness
As for Kairi...she was just there..no character development

[KeyBladeDude]

Kairi, I have always loved her, and i still sorta do, man. im gonna get an earful from the guys tomorow

[Esteroth12]

Kairi, I have always loved her, and i still sorta do, man. im gonna get an earful from the guys tomorow

yes you will...

i vote Kairi, not because i know her, but because Namine is a hag.... thats all...

[Mischa]

KAIRI RULZ but i dont hate Namine

people dont get so worked up about who is betta everyone is equal and has an opinion

in my case i dont like Namine cos I THINK i repeat I THINK that she is a little annoying and too clingy to Sora

also she uses Kairi's idea of making Sora make a promise to be friends with her. Though i understand if you've lived your life in solitude and one day some boy comes and saves you by getting rid of the organization you would think him as your hero.

but Kairi still has my vote! i would like Namine and Kairi to meet each other in KH2

[Ursula102]

yes you will... 

i vote Kairi, not because i know her, but because Namine is a hag.... thats all...

Yeah. Namine's a hag. Just like you.

That was just about the most retarded post I've read in all my life.

[Namine_Star]

yes you will... 

i vote Kairi, not because i know her, but because Namine is a hag.... thats all...

A hag? Could you give some background to that opinion, please?
The thing I most dislike about Kairi is that you never get the chance to really know her, with SE pulling the old D.I.D. wagon along.
On the other hand, you actually got to know about Namine, why she did what she did and all that. She was much more developed than Kairi, which is sort of weird, since Kairi is supposed to be the main female... It's all about character developement; if a character doesn't have that, they seem as flat and shallow as the paper they're first drawn on.
That's why I'm desperately hoping that Kairi will do some major developement in the sequel. She has to make up for KH1.

Oh, and if people are actually voting on who would go with Sora, I'd say Kairi. She was there first after all, and Sora obviously loves her.

[soralover]

I don't think that Namine is all that bad, for those of you that were thinking I'm just here to put her down.
She did have more character development, but if you were KO'd for about three-fourths of the game, you wouldn't have pratically any character development.
I do agree with some of you that when Riku isn't there, it's like his not there at all.
And I do agree that Kairi has the 'help me, I can't fight' side.
But if you look at a lot of the Disney Princesses, they basically all have that side. It's like a tradition.
- Cinderella - needed to be saved from Evil Sisters, and Stepmother, and didn't stand up against them.
- Snow White - had to be kissed after biting into a poisoned apple from Evil Stepmother.
- Ariel - wanted to visit other worlds
I think you get it.
I'm not trying to bash the Princesses either.
It's just a lot of them follow the same format, and only few actually pass it. (Speaking of Mulan mostly, she was in the show Disney Princesses on Ice, and yes, I went to see it.)
There's always that format. 'Help, I'm being tormented, I need a Prince to come and save me from this.'
And after a while, it gets boring.
I'm also not saying that all of the Princesses should be warriors and go out there and fight whatever troubling them. Disney would never be able to release a movie where the beautiful Cinderella draws out a sword and kills her Stepmother to go to the ball and see the Prince. (It would be interesting though...)

- Soralover
(I've never typed so much to post in my life.)

[Omega Heartless]

for sure i like namine, she, unlike kairi, has even though hurt sora by taking his memories, she help him with that by staying there while his memory came back...and kairi, even though i dont care much for her character since you didnt see much of her in the game, is pretty much a normal character unlike riku or sora, and her being the pirincess of hearts of hollow bastion doesnt make her any special.

namine, has a very empty but heavy heart for what has happened to her and what she has done to sora and his friends...but she feals that she owes sora for doing such a thing as to help the one that started this in the first place...but she wanted to help him because she felt that it was in her heart that this was that right thing to do...and how would you think that she is trying to...i dont know, hit on sora or something(more like larxene doin that if you ask me^^)...and i think that BHK and namine will most absolutely get togetherbut of course i still think that GHK is some form of soras memories and namine wants to find a way to bring them back togetther as a whole
(hell, how can there be a third keyblader,*not counting micky* its just not possible)
but that just me y'know



soralover, will you stop posting in big, bold red letters*cracks knuckles*

[Chibi-Meower]

oh... i can't choose! ^^ I lub namine cause she's got blonde hair like me.. and i like her personality, even if she's a witch. ^^ and Kairi's kewl cause she's the whole reason all of this began. I mean if you think about it, if Kairi never left hollow bastion, Sora wouldn't have to go find her! and mostlikly, Riku and Sora would beat each other up everyday and no one would stop them. Kairi keeps all the fighting to simple things... like racing! of which i beat Riku at EVERY time! ^^">

[Enigmatic Man]

The thing I most dislike about Kairi is that you never get the chance to really know her, with SE pulling the old D.I.D. wagon along.
On the other hand, you actually got to know about Namine, why she did what she did and all that. She was much more developed than Kairi, which is sort of weird, since Kairi is supposed to be the main female...    It's all about character developement; if a character doesn't have that, they seem as flat and shallow as the paper they're first drawn on.
That's why I'm desperately hoping that Kairi will do some major developement in the sequel. She has to make up for KH1. 

Oh, and if people are actually voting on who would go with Sora, I'd say Kairi. She was there first after all, and Sora obviously loves her. 
[/color][/b]

I totally agree with you. Kairi had little development (though she wasn't exactly boring, but w/e), so I like Namine more in that area. But if it were to come to relationships, then Kairi would be the one to go with Sora. They're ment for each other.

And to everybody who think Namine is some mean spirited, jealous girl, you're wrong. She was forced by some rather ruthless people to manipulate Sora. She had no choice. Also, if it weren't for her, Riku would have been lost in the light and defeated by Zexion. After all, it was her scent that Riku picked up, not Kairi. So Kairi was never in Castle Oblivion.

[Ursula102]

I don't think that Namine is all that bad, for those of you that were thinking I'm just here to put her down.
She did have more character development, but if you were KO'd for about three-fourths of the game, you wouldn't have pratically any character development.
I do agree with some of you that when Riku isn't there, it's like his not there at all.
And I do agree that Kairi has the 'help me, I can't fight' side.
But if you look at a lot of the Disney Princesses, they basically all have that side. It's like a tradition.
- Cinderella - needed to be saved from Evil Sisters, and Stepmother, and didn't stand up against them.
- Snow White - had to be kissed after biting into a poisoned apple from Evil Stepmother.
- Ariel - wanted to visit other worlds
  I think you get it.
I'm not trying to bash the Princesses either.
It's just a lot of them follow the same format, and only few actually pass it. (Speaking of Mulan mostly, she was in the show Disney Princesses on Ice, and yes, I went to see it.)
There's always that format. 'Help, I'm being tormented, I need a Prince to come and save me from this.'
And after a while, it gets boring.
I'm also not saying that all of the Princesses should be warriors and go out there and fight whatever troubling them. Disney would never be able to release a movie where the beautiful Cinderella draws out a sword and kills her Stepmother to go to the ball and see the Prince. (It would be interesting though...)

- Soralover
(I've never typed so much to post in my life.)

Those are poor examples. In the game (and in the movie), Ariel stood up for herself. Sure, she wanted to travel to other worlds, but you saw her fighting Ursula with you (if you took her in your party) didn't you? And the thing about Cinderella is rather harsh. In fact, its much more heroic to not fight than it is for one TO fight. Besides, "rescued" is a rather strong word for that situation and I'm sure noone would take a sword to the Stepmother just because she made a girl do housework.

The only one that is true for is Snow White, but I don't tend to include that one because Snow White's too 'innocent' to do anything. It's admirable, but unrealistic.

It's almost sad though, when these unimportant characters had more development 'in the game' than one of the 3 MAIN characters did. Even if she was knocked out for half the game, the time she was there wasn't very memorable or representing of strong character to me.

About the only strong thing she did was at the beginning of the game when Sora found her in the Secret Place. Personally, I think she was there trying to stop the island from being flooded by Heartless, just as the other Princesses of Heart did for Hollow Bastion. That's the only 'strong' act I ever note her for. In fact, I think I was a little too harsh with the whole 'damsel-in-distress' thing, now that I take the time to remember the FEW things she did in the game.

[Da Games Elite]

Kairi. Namine is cute, but Kairi is cuter. Plus, for some reason, Namine in KHII doesn't give me the same emotion as Kairi.

[Mischa]

well u people should not quote each others opinions and disagree with it so meanly

[soralover]

Okay, first things first.
- Sorry Omega Heartless, typing in bold, red font is kinda what I like to do.
- Ursula 102, I wasn't really talking about the game when using my poor examples, I do admit they were poor. And I don't think that anyone should take out a sword on their stepmother. However, it helps to boost your coinfidence in yourself if you choose to stand up for what you believe in. I kind of agree with you saying that it is heroic to not fight, but it's also cowardly. Plus, you also can't be a strong character if you are KO'd. I mean what can you really do in that state? Just be there? (I know, I've been KO'd before at school, it was an accident, but I laid on the floor for a little, so how was I to show my character then?)
Cunno, E ys cunno vun oui.

- Soralover

This is for you Omega Heartless... *I'm talking about the font and size*

[krekka2ansem]

Kairi is so much better than Naminé. At least she didn't go and screw Sora's memories up! Even though she was nice, she could have done something to the Organization members. Though, that might not work...

[Sora77]

I don't know who Namine is so I voted Kairi. I would have voted for Kairi anyway. Who is Namine?